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Betting in Mid Position for 9 handed Texas Hold’em games

Posted by: Travis Johnston  /  Category: Starting Hands, Strategy

This post is a continuation of the thought process started in “9 Handed Middle Position starting hand range for Texas Hold’em” , we will finish the topic out and talk about how to bet individual hands from middle position.

Factors that go into making this betting chart:

  • Bet more with hands that have good EV heads up since it is later position and less likely to get multiple caller.
  • Betting with enough with different hand types that people can not put you on a range of hands within the 20%
  • Betting with at least 50% of all the hands we play
  • Limping with enough with raising hands that we can use check raises to protect our limping hands.
Bet 2-Bet 3-Bet 4-Bet
AA 4 4 3 3
KK 5 5 4 3
QQ 6 6 3 1
AKs 3 2 2 1
JJ 6 4 2 1
AQs 3 2 1
KQs 2 1
AJs 3 2 1
KJs 2 1
TT 5 3 2 1
AK 8 6 4 2
ATs 3 1
QJs 1
KTs 2
JTs 2
AQ 8 4 2
A9s 3 1
KQ 8
99 4 2 1
K9s 1
AJ 8 4
T9s 1
KJ 4
QJ
AT 8 4
88 4 2 1
KT
JT
54s 1
65s 1
98s 1
Q10
87s 1
76s 1
77 4 2 1
66 4 2 1
55 4 2 1
44 4 2 1
33 4 2 1
22 4 2 1
133 66 32 12
0.5 0.24812 0.120301 0.045113

ie: AA 4 = Bet 4 out of the 6 possible pairs and limp with the other 2

Limping:

  • The hands that are only limping hands need volume and I would probably not limp with them unless someone before you also limped.
  • 7% of your monster hands ( AA – JJ AK – AQ )  you will be limping with to catch people trying to raise you off your limp
  • 8% of your hands ( small pairs ) you will limp with but can stand to call a raise with for set value

Betting:

  • Betting with a lot of your Top EV hands but also has it balanced with low pairs and suited connectors so they can not always just call your raises and re-raise your c-bet on low flops.
  • Betting with small pairs and suited connectors does mean you have to c-bet a lot flops if you get heads up and count on they only hit the flop 33% of the time to make a profit.

2-Betting:

  • Again a good range of Top EV hands that play well heads up but balanced with the low pairs to avoid people putting you on a narrow range of flops.
  • Of the big pocket pairs that you limp with I suggest 50% of the time re-raising with them and just flat calling if heads up so your smooth call is not predictable and means you have a small pair.

3-Betting:

  • Still trying to keep a range of hands as a lot of people call 3-bets light just to take flops away from people.
  • Dropping all hands that can be dominated and just playing hands that flop hard.

4-Betting:

  • No longer worried about a range of flops, if they call the 4-bet then we really want to have the best hand, I am only putting in enough hands so they can not always assume we have AA or KK and will consider giving us action.

If you in extremely aggressive game then drop the normal limping hands and start limping with even more of your raising hands so you can go for more check raises.

I would also map these betting percentages on each hand the color of the cards instead of just trying to randomly remember how often your betting each hand.  Humans are really bad at being random.

ie  AA 4 = Bet 4 out of 6 possible pairs, I would bet all pairs that are mixed color and only limp with the ones that are all black or red.

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Betting in Early Position for 9 handed Texas Hold’em games

Posted by: Travis Johnston  /  Category: Starting Hands, Strategy

This post is a continuation of the thought process started in “9 Handed Early Position starting hand range for Texas Hold’em“, we will talk about how to bet these early position hands.

Factors that go into making this chart:

  • Betting more often with hands that have good EV heads up
  • Betting with enough with different hands within the 15% range that people can not put you on a range of cards
  • Ensure we are betting with 50% of all the hands we play
  • Limping enough with good hands that we can use check raises to protect our normal limping hands.
Bet 2-Bet 3-Bet 4-Bet
AA 4 4 3 3
KK 5 5 4 3
QQ 6 6 3 1
AKs 3 2 2 1
JJ 6 4 2 1
AQs 3 2 1
KQs 2
AJs 3
KJs 2
TT 5 3 2 1
AK 8 6 4 2
ATs 3
QJs
KTs
QTs
JTs 2
AQ 8 4
KQ
99 4 2 1
AJ 8
KJ
QJ
AT
88 4 2 1
77 4 2 1
66 4 2 1
55 4 2 1
44 4 2 1
33 4 2
22 4 2
# Hands 100 52 27 12
0.49505 0.257426 0.133663 0.059406

ie: AA 4 = Bet 4 out of the 6 possible pairs and limp with the other 2

Limping:

  • Always limping with the mid range suited connectors that really need volume of people in the pot to make them profitable.
  • 7% of your monster hands ( AA – JJ AK – AQ )  you will be limping with to catch people trying to raise you off your limp
  • 8% of your hands ( small pairs ) you will limp with but can stand to call a raise with for set value

Betting:

  • Betting with a lot of the Top EV hands but also has it balanced with low pairs so they can not always just call your raises and re-raise your c-bet on low flops.
  • Betting with small pairs does mean one has to c-bet a lot flops if one get heads up and count on they only hit the flop 33% of the time to make a profit.

2-Betting:

  • Again a good range of Top EV hands that play well heads up but balanced with the low pairs to avoid people putting one on a narrow range of flops.
  • Of the big pocket pairs that you limp with I suggest 50% of the time re-raising with them and just flat calling if heads up so your smooth call is not predictable and means you have a small pair.

3-Betting:

  • Still trying to keep a range of hands as a lot of people call 3-bets light just to take flops away from people.
  • Dropping all hands that can be dominated and just playing hands that flop hard.

4-Betting:

  • No longer worried about a range of flops, if they call the 4-bet then we really want to have the best hand, I am only putting in enough hands so they can not always assume we have AA or KK and will consider giving us action.

This system works very well for the average game, if you in extremely aggressive game then drop the normal limping hands and start limping with even more of your raising hands so you can go for more check raises.  If you in a extremely passive game ( rare these days ) then start raising with even more of of your limping hands and hope to either get enough callers to get the proper volume on it or get heads up so you can take it down with a c-bet.

I would also map these betting percentages on each hand the color of the cards instead of just trying to randomly remember how often your betting each hand.  Humans are really bad at being random.

ie  AA 4 = Bet 4 out of 6 possible pairs, I would bet all pairs that are mixed color and only limp with the ones that are all black or red.

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Darkened Poker

9 Handed Late Position starting hand range for Texas Hold’em

Posted by: Travis Johnston  /  Category: Starting Hands, Strategy

Lets continue this thread about starting hands and look at building a range that one could play from late position ( UTG 7-9).  A typical TAG would want to play about 30% of of his/her hands from this position.  The top 30% EV hands for 9 handed games are:

AA 2.04899 K8s 0.415988
KK 1.61562 88 0.414812
QQ 1.279928 A2s 0.405397
AKs 1.032737 KT 0.401491
JJ 0.994069 K7s 0.392167
AQs 0.911728 Q8s 0.385657
KQs 0.849477 T8s 0.380428
AJs 0.835561 J8s 0.365497
KJs 0.776992 98s 0.364125
TT 0.768963 QT 0.361045
AK 0.763293 JT 0.359939
ATs 0.75938 K6s 0.356306
QJs 0.741586 K5s 0.338064
KTs 0.712592 77 0.306347
QTs 0.669724 K4s 0.298507
JTs 0.656823 K3s 0.286628
AQ 0.627584 87s 0.274406
A9s 0.595013 T7s 0.273104
KQ 0.578591 Q6s 0.272705
99 0.570744 J7s 0.270577
A8s 0.557962 97s 0.261974
K9s 0.54021 Q7s 0.255058
AJ 0.526378 A9 0.254267
A5s 0.517943 K2s 0.235724
T9s 0.508507 76s 0.223467
A7s 0.490174 K9 0.216866
Q9s 0.484182 A8 0.211826
J9s 0.483783 66 0.200129
A4s 0.474452 T9 0.196762
KJ 0.472338 86s 0.193808
A6s 0.449735 T6s 0.192975
QJ 0.441188 65s 0.18601
AT 0.436813 96s 0.176973
A3s 0.429624

Now this hand range does not suffer from the problem before were it is easily exploitable given that is does have coverage of the lower cards.  But it does still suffer from the problem that if you raise and get heads up a lot of these hands do not play well at all.  So we can remove some of the 2-3 gapped suited cards and replace them with the missing small pairs and throw back in some Ace decent kicker.

AA 2.04899 AT 0.436813
KK 1.61562 A3s 0.429624
QQ 1.279928 K8s 0.415988
AKs 1.032737 88 0.414812
JJ 0.994069 A2s 0.405397
AQs 0.911728 KT 0.401491
KQs 0.849477 K7s 0.392167
AJs 0.835561 Q8s 0.385657
KJs 0.776992 T8s 0.380428
TT 0.768963 98s 0.364125
AK 0.763293 QT 0.361045
A10s 0.75938 JT 0.359939
QJs 0.741586 K6s 0.356306
KTs 0.712592 K5s 0.338064
QTs 0.669724 77 0.306347
JTs 0.656823 K4s 0.298507
AQ 0.627584 K3s 0.286628
A9s 0.595013 87s 0.274406
KQ 0.578591 A9 0.254267
99 0.570744 K2s 0.235724
A8s 0.557962 76s 0.223467
K9s 0.54021 K9 0.216866
AJ 0.526378 A8 0.211826
A5s 0.517943 66 0.200129
T9s 0.508507 T9 0.196762
A7s 0.490174 65s 0.18601
Q9s 0.484182 55 0.128414
J9s 0.483783 44 0.070251
A4s 0.474452 33 0.02466
KJ 0.472338 22 -0.01642
A6s 0.449735 A7 0.10872
QJ 0.441188

The EV for the starting range does go down 0.503 to 0.487 which is really nothing at all.

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9 Handed Middle Position starting hand range for Texas Hold’em

Posted by: Travis Johnston  /  Category: Starting Hands, Strategy

Lets continue this thread about starting hands and look at building a range that one could play from middle position ( UTG 4-6).  A typical TAG would want to play about 20% of of his/her hands from this position.  The top 20% EV hands for 9 handed games are:

AA 2.04899 AJ 0.526378
KK 1.61562 A5s 0.517943
QQ 1.279928 T9s 0.508507
AKs 1.032737 A7s 0.490174
JJ 0.994069 Q9s 0.484182
AQs 0.911728 J9s 0.483783
KQs 0.849477 A4s 0.474452
AJs 0.835561 KJ 0.472338
KJs 0.776992 A6s 0.449735
TT 0.768963 QJ 0.441188
AK 0.763293 A10 0.436813
A10s 0.75938 A3s 0.429624
QJs 0.741586 K8s 0.415988
K10s 0.712592 88 0.414812
Q10s 0.669724 A2s 0.405397
J10s 0.656823 K10 0.401491
AQ 0.627584 K7s 0.392167
A9s 0.595013 Q8s 0.385657
KQ 0.578591 T8s 0.380428
99 0.570744 J8s 0.365497
A8s 0.557962 98s 0.364125
K9s 0.54021 Q10 0.361045

Although this is the Max EV it is extremely exploitable:

  • Very few cards in it a below 9, it is easy for people to put you on a range of hands
  • It is very Ace & King heavy, they will re-raise you a lot if they do not think you hit top pair.
  • Also if your raising 50% of the time ( like you should be ) a lot of these hands to do not play well heads up and will leave you with tough decisions most likely out of position.
  • To many of these hands only play well with volume and trying to start a limp from mid position is even more likely to get raised or not enough people will call to make it profitable.

To fix this I would put in more hands that play well heads up since your in middle position now it is less likely you will get called in multiple places if you raise.  Do this by removing some Ace Rag and gapped suited connectors; replacing them with suited connector range down to 54s and putting in all the small pairs.

AA 2.04899 AJ 0.526378
KK 1.61562 T9s 0.508507
QQ 1.279928 KJ 0.472338
AKs 1.032737 QJ 0.441188
JJ 0.994069 A10 0.436813
AQs 0.911728 88 0.414812
KQs 0.849477 K10 0.401491
AJs 0.835561 J10 0.359939
KJs 0.776992 54s 0.148679
TT 0.768963 65s 0.18601
AK 0.763293 98s 0.364125
A10s 0.75938 Q10 0.361045
QJs 0.741586 87s 0.274406
K10s 0.712592 76s 0.223467
J10s 0.656823 77 0.306347
AQ 0.627584 66 0.200129
A9s 0.595013 55 0.128414
KQ 0.578591 44 0.070251
99 0.570744 33 0.02466
K9s 0.54021 22 -0.01642

This fixes the above big problem:

  • Small pairs can be used to pick off continuation bets if your in position, or re-raise if you hit your set.  Suited connectors will hit lower flops so you can continuation bet a lot more flops that do not contain Ace or King and people will be less like to re-raise.
  • Less Ace & King rag hands mean we will not be dominated in heads up situations were both people hit.

The EV for the starting range does go down 0.63 to 0.56 but in my mind that is worth it for the ease of play after the flop.

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